tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post6848717467213350698..comments2024-01-11T15:14:09.152-05:00Comments on Romance Writers Behaving Badly: Losing Control...Yeah, baby!Cailin Bristehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16210469124316577849noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-34611003643502612502010-11-18T11:32:27.485-05:002010-11-18T11:32:27.485-05:00As always, it looks like you are in the thick of t...As always, it looks like you are in the thick of things, Val. You know I am the same way with my characters. I swear I am marshmallow fluff when it comes to them. I have scrapped more than one carefully planned storyline because the characters refused to fall in step with the program. I have even had to change the hero or heroine to a different one because the first two didn't like each other. <br /><br />My outlines never seem to make it to paper (not even in hieroglyphic form though that does sound interesting, Robert) but I must have an overall concept even if my characters tell me it won't work and I have to revamp it. When I wake up in the night with my hero shouting in my head and demanding I make it work his way, or my heroine screaming that the hero is an arrogant ass that makes her nuts while she expounds on why he is so absolutely perfect for such an F'ing dick, I know I have it right.<br /><br />Glad I am not alone in my insanity.Becca Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09854661507227735148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-49695339167770531172010-11-18T10:31:31.340-05:002010-11-18T10:31:31.340-05:00From time to time my characters have to be reined ...From time to time my characters have to be reined in or they get themselves in trouble, lol.Faith Bicknellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08978240749619858463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-25930590268039793262010-11-18T04:47:42.106-05:002010-11-18T04:47:42.106-05:00Robert, oh, I do understand the conversation. Alth...Robert, oh, I do understand the conversation. Although, my characters usually take a more tactful approach... they know their author... lol...<br /><br />"orbital bombardment" ~ love it!Savanna Kougarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15698138048388102279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-88517378166186814342010-11-18T00:12:01.868-05:002010-11-18T00:12:01.868-05:00Bobby, as your lil sis, I love you. But dude, the ...Bobby, as your lil sis, I love you. But dude, the conversation you have with your characters give me fear.pj schnyderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06770556738469006567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-91605642208512542022010-11-17T23:57:40.015-05:002010-11-17T23:57:40.015-05:00Yep, I think that's the main reason I let the ...Yep, I think that's the main reason I let the characters do their thing. It's fascinating to watch them evolve and become "real" to me. Only a fellow author would understand that feeling. LOLValerie Mannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11761558020418265338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-57016977262130879112010-11-17T23:33:49.960-05:002010-11-17T23:33:49.960-05:00I always have an outline. Of course, only rarely ...I always have an outline. Of course, only rarely does it get written down anywhere outside my head. When it DOES get written down outside my head, it's usually in the form of pseudo-heiroglyphs, each one representing a key scene in some way. For those of you I'm gonna meet at PhilCon or elsewhere, I can try to scare an old one up; non-writers think they're proof of insanity, writers think they're hilarious. Mostly because I can't draw.<br /><br />Observer - "Why is there a sparkler, a belly ring, and a flower here?"<br />Me - "That's a magic wand, a hydrogen atom, and a bomb."<br />O - "OK, it's still clear as mud. What kind of scene has a magic wand, a hydrogen atom, and a bomb? Is Tenly nuking something again?"<br />M - "No, Christina May is using the magic of orbital bombardment."<br /><br />Yeah. That conversation actually occurred when someone saw my heiroglyph outline. And yeah, I was dead serious. And worst of all, the characters there *still* took over and went in a different direction that I thought. What's bad is that I lose rational arguments with my characters.<br /><br />Me - "She's your romantic rival. You *can't* like her."<br />Tenly - "As if. 'rival' implies she's competition."<br />M - "She wants to sleep with your husband."<br />T - "One, 'consort' not 'husband', two, let her."<br />M - "Buh?!"<br />T - "I need an heir. I'm sterile. She's not. I marry her, she sleeps with him, i've got an heir, and Bob's yer uncle."<br />M - "Fine, see if I care!" *throws up hands, writes it her way*<br /><br />Yeah. The major plot points wind up happening, but getting there rarely takes the course I think it will. And it is almost always the result of a character taking control. That living, breathing, *taking control* aspect is what tells me the character has gained a third dimension rather than being a cardboard cutout following a script.Robert C Romanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13955223936635159755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-89348348249895719812010-11-17T20:59:22.098-05:002010-11-17T20:59:22.098-05:00I know that if my characters don't take over t...I know that if my characters don't take over the writing at about chapter three (or after 1,000 words in a short), then the story isn't working. Maybe I have the wrong characters or the wrong plot or...<br /><br />I shouldn't have to force my characters to do anything.Cynthia Saxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03506007671015631600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-23637334837340444742010-11-17T16:54:51.981-05:002010-11-17T16:54:51.981-05:00Val, I know alittle whats in your head there is no...Val, I know alittle whats in your head there is no controlling that LOL... No I can't control mine either if I did it would be chaos and mine never ends of where I think it will either.<br /><br />Stay out of control girl, it works for you.Dominique Eastwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05123337701723663642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-86096232045302658172010-11-17T16:19:01.801-05:002010-11-17T16:19:01.801-05:00I'm a planner. I like to have an outline. Howe...I'm a planner. I like to have an outline. However, I usually end up with more than one. Actually when the story is "working" I end up with more than a few. <br />It's a, "Okay, I've gotten this far, where to now." sort-a-thing.<br />I agree, when its working you loose control. Its not a safe place for me, so I lull myself into a false sense of security by pretending to have a plan.<br />As writers, we need to find what works. This is what works for me.Author Leanne Dyckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12886667518427660865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-82249584517243892152010-11-17T15:06:37.013-05:002010-11-17T15:06:37.013-05:00Valerie, great blog!
panslotter... lol... one mo...Valerie, great blog! <br /><br />panslotter... lol... one more on board, here. My heroines and heroes run the show and I never know where they're going to take me... and some like baking cookies, too! and my heroes seem to enjoy crooning songs to their heroines... <br /><br />yeah, outline... what's that? it would be just one more annoyance and a sheer waste of my time.Savanna Kougarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15698138048388102279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-9816715682632822762010-11-17T14:01:56.033-05:002010-11-17T14:01:56.033-05:00Oh. I'm a panslotter. Yay, there's a word ...Oh. I'm a panslotter. Yay, there's a word for me. And I take a long time writing because I accumulate a lot of the character's dialogue and scenes in my head and then piece them together. I can't just sit and write. Ain't happening.Valerie Mannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11761558020418265338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-81028848895656201052010-11-17T13:45:18.732-05:002010-11-17T13:45:18.732-05:00LOL you're so adorable :) I know I am told the...LOL you're so adorable :) I know I am told the same thing. I took a plotting course taht was 28 days and thought in 28 days instead of plotting I'll be damn near done :) But. I do have a sort of outline in my head in some odd way so I end up being a panslotter a bit of both although the insides aren't clear if I wake up in the mid of the night with a hero yelling at the heroine you're damn skippy I pick up that pad and write it down. Other than that just like in real life I'm a free spirit my characters are free ones too that plague me, annoy me, love me and well I have to admit I love the fuckers too...every single one, hero, heroine, hell even the villains and villanesses if that's a word. :) As for me being bad I reserve that for in private!Haleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08052968394434407915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-26988499830331177492010-11-17T11:25:48.594-05:002010-11-17T11:25:48.594-05:00It's so cute, I can hear our conversations in ...It's so cute, I can hear our conversations in the blog! As a fellow character captive, I agree with you as you know lol,face it, my characters are MUCH more interesting people than I am. Do you know there are authors who write the blurb first? I've run across some and I have no idea how they can be so sure it's accurate. Different styles!Kate Richardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11266895320753860578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-5951416318755301882010-11-17T11:10:31.156-05:002010-11-17T11:10:31.156-05:00Outline? What's an outline? Within the first s...Outline? What's an outline? Within the first scene I'm usually scrapping the thing. My characters have TOTAL control. Ugh!JMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03689756071577897741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-18745483072928796482010-11-17T10:46:59.248-05:002010-11-17T10:46:59.248-05:00PJ, that's so funny! I do the same thing when ...PJ, that's so funny! I do the same thing when I actually do attempt an outline. Sort of like going back and changing your answers in a test. LOLValerie Mannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11761558020418265338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-70809793617007948362010-11-17T10:39:19.350-05:002010-11-17T10:39:19.350-05:00So true! I do start with an outline but once in a ...So true! I do start with an outline but once in a while my character hijack the scene. What do I do? I rewrite the outline. ;)pj schnyderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06770556738469006567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-74737102581833673572010-11-17T10:22:26.952-05:002010-11-17T10:22:26.952-05:00Oh Val, you crack me up. I try to outline on occas...Oh Val, you crack me up. I try to outline on occasion and it helps, but sometimes those characters really do know what they're talking about. As they evolve on paper, of course they become more than what you originally planned, so letting them take the lead isn't always a bad thing...now if they end up being much too naughty (I draw the line at donkeys) or gasp, a wee bit boring (my characters seem to like to bake cookies too often) then there is that magical delete key :)<br /><br />Great blog :)steph beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09632214175844632439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3141313224798481619.post-78967031325918378102010-11-17T09:46:16.856-05:002010-11-17T09:46:16.856-05:00Right on.Right on.Vivien Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17483278884631021887noreply@blogger.com